The bar angle is designed to correspond to the profile or slope of the saddle pocket on a horse located below the withers and back of the shoulder blade. A saddle rigged very forward on the bars full or more will pull down much more on the front of the bars often impeding the shoulder blades from slipping under the bar tips as they should do when the leg is fully extended.
Gullet width of 7.
How can you tell if a saddle is full quarter horse bars. Full quarter horse bars have a wider angle than semi-quarter horse bars. When you are looking at the saddle from the front a saddle with semi-quarter horse bars will appear to be narrower with a steeper angle created between the skirts and the gullet. A saddle with full quarter horse bars will appear to be wider and will be sitting flatter than a comparable saddle with semi-quarter horse bars.
The width of your horses shoulder determines the type of tree and gullet width you will need. Regular quarter horse bars gullet width. Semi-quarter horse bars gullet width.
Full-quarter horse bars gullet width. Extra-wide quarter horse bars gullet width. Well it wasnt true then and it isnt true now.
There are no standards for what a Semi-Quarter Horse bars saddle fits like. And while within one tree maker the progression from Regular to Semi-Quarter Horse to Quarter Horse to Full Quarter Horse still goes from narrowest to widest it doesnt necessarily mean it is the same between makers. One makers Semi-Quarter Horse bars could be.
Full quarter horse bars are 6 14 to 6 12 inches apart. This size fits horses who are wider in the front shoulders than a semi-quarter horse bar size with extra muscle or fat. As horses age they may gain weight and need a larger bar saddle or they may become leaner lose weight and require a smaller bar saddle.
Western saddles that do not fit a horse well can cause a. Full quarter horse bars sometimes abbreviated as FQH or FQHB have the widest tree with the flattest bar angles. Its important to know that a saddle with full Quarter Horse bars made by one saddle maker might have a different tree width and bar angle than a saddle with full Quarter Horse bars from a different saddle maker.
This is because there is not an industry wide standard for these terms. You cant really get a correct measurement once the saddle is made but as a basic figure Semi bars will measure around the 55 mark under that it will most likely have regular bars above that full bars. If the measurement is over the 7 mark then it is an extra wide make.
For a bare tree you would take 5 to 1 of those measurements sometimes more sometimes less. There are many variations to this myth. The truth is that the saddle industry uses terms loosely.
Semi-quarter horse bars are often referred to as quarter horse bars but others use the term quarter horse bars to describe wide bars so the same saddle can be given different terms. This is very confusing to someone buying their first saddle. There are regular Quarter Horse bars semi-Quarter Horse bars full Quarter Horse bars and more.
Such designations are determined by the space between the bars on the tree at the base of the swell. Unfortunately the distance between the bars cannot be measured once the saddle has been built around the tree. However the width measurement is used only as a guideline.
If you can fit less than 2 fingers between the saddle and the withers the saddle is probably too wide for your horse. If you can fit more than 3 fingers your saddle is probably too wide. If you stand behind the horse you should be able to look at the back of the saddle and see daylight through the gap in the tree at the bottom of the saddle.
If you are sitting in the saddle like a recliner with your legs out in front you are exerting twice as much force on the back of the bars and digging the bars into the horses loins. The rider must sit in a balanced position vertically with your legs under you-this will allow the bars of the tree to function properly spreading pressure equally front to back. The angle is flatter compared to the Semi-QH tree.
This is for horses with a broad shoulder. Theyre considered mutton withered or a less pronounced wither. Quarter Horse Paint etc Arabian.
Have a narrow front usually 65 675 gullet similar to the Semi-QH bar but the back of the saddle has a flatter pitch angle. So the saddle goes from a little narrow in the front to flatter or wider in the back. When you are standing next to your horse gently slide your hand between the side of his witherupper shoulder and the saddle.
If your hand is pinched uncomfortably the tree is too narrow. Full Quarter Horse Bars FQHB also known as Wide Tree fits standard Quarter Horses and most stock breeds like Paints and Appaloosas. There is no standardization in the industry for a Regular or Semi-Quarter horse tree and Wide or Full Quarter horse tree so different saddle brands will not fit the same.
The fit may also vary among disciplines. The gullet measurement is important but it is the most misunderstood. It is not the defining factor of saddle fit.
A well-fitting saddle should sit evenly on the animals back. The front should be at the same level as the back of the saddle. With the saddle on your horses back look at it directly from the side.
If the saddle seems higher in the front or in the back it probably doesnt fit them well. Full Quarter Horse Bars-have even wider angles to accommodate wider-bodied horses and horses with flatter or Mutton withers. Gullet width of 7.
The gullet width should be about the same width of the withers approximately 2 below the top of the withers. Many saddles called full quarter horse are wider in the gullet but not angled out much different than semi quarter horse bars. The bars also need to be flatter on the bottom without a convex ball pushing into the wither pockets.
A saddle rigged very forward on the bars full or more will pull down much more on the front of the bars often impeding the shoulder blades from slipping under the bar tips as they should do when the leg is fully extended. The same saddle with a rigging farther back allows much freer shoulder movement. This goes counter to the rig it forward to hold the saddle back so you get free.
The bar angle is designed to correspond to the profile or slope of the saddle pocket on a horse located below the withers and back of the shoulder blade. This angle is described in the generic terms of. Quarter horse bars full quarter horse bars semi-quarter horse bars.
Tree makers express this angle in degrees and is calculated by a geometric and mathematical formula. The higher number in degrees. A horse that goes around with his head up ears pinned and tail swishing could be indicating discomfort or displeasure for.